Realizing first that many of us work on different sites, Each with it's own set of rules,like no nudity in free chat, some are topless is ok, and others are everything goes. What do you give for free? Say you have you cam focused on your cleavage, will you show your face for free or your body. Will you show your booty for free. I don't believe in giving anything for free but now it seems if you aren't willing to, you sit in an empty room and the few that do show get pissed when you say you need a tip for that or try to give the smallest they can. I wont even do anything for less than $5 but I only get (after checking) 36% of tips. So it really isn't worth jumping through hoops for less. I find that the girls breaking the rules and flashing when they are not supposed to, and many for free, or the ones that put the camera on their pussies and their labia sticking out around their thongs, end up with rooms full of guys and tips or privates. At what point do you just give up and start giving things for free? I'll confess that I have even broke down a few times and tried the tactics of putting the camera on my crotch, but my pussy completely covered by my panties or focusing the camera on my ass or cleavage.I still find myself sitting in an empty room. no one that jumps in stay long enough to type 2 letters. As soon as their name appears in my chat it is gone, no time to read it. I obviously can't compete with the girls that are breaking the rules on my site. The rules are no topless in free but can flash during designated times for tips (sat and sun) cannot have bottom nudity at all in free. The hand bra has been designated as breaking the rules. I noticed a top girl wearing absolutely nothing, just using her hair to cover very little of her nipples. Seriously what is the breaking point? I have had my boobs done, gotten better at make up, and do my damnedest to look good, I have even started lying about my age which I am proud of and never wanted to lie about. I cant even find my niche because I am always sitting in an empty chat. Two years is too long to be dealing with this.